This is where Aston Villa vs Birmingham City ranks in the world's greatest derby matches

The Second City derby has provided some iconic moments down the ages.

A beginners guide to the Second City Derby

Whether it’s the Scottish Cafu, a goalkeeping gaffe or a dropped nut fans have learned to expect the unexpected when Aston Villa face Birmingham City .

The Claret and Blue side of the city have enjoyed dominance in recent years - but when Blues prevail it's rarely a run-of-the-mill encounter.

Yet a list compiled by radio station talkSPORT can only find it a position in 17th when compiling the top 20 derbies in world football - ranking fourth in English football.

Fair enough there are some belters in the top 10 - Boca Juniors vs River Plate topping the list is hardly a surprise.

And at least Blues-Villa is included when the seismic Manchester United v Liverpool battle is not, though the list is restricted to cross-city rivalries.

West Ham and Millwall might feel their derby is as keenly contested as any on earth - particularly given the Dutch semi-pro offering at No. 18.

 Here’s talkSPORT ’s full list

1. Boca Juniors v River Plate

2. Manchester United v Manchester City

3. Atletico Madrid v Real Madrid

4. Al Ahly v Zamalek

5. Arsenal v Tottenham

6. Olympiakos v Panathinaikos

7. Flamengo v FluminPlate

8. Everton v Liverpool

9. Fenerbahce v Galatasaray

10. Benfica v Sporting Lisbon

11. AC Milan v Inter

12. Celtic v Rangers

13. Lazio v Roma

14. Nacional v Penarol

15. Barcelona SC v Emelec

16. CSKA Moscow v Spartak Moscow

17. Aston Villa v Birmingham City Is 17th position about right for the Villa-Blues derby?

18. Ijsselmeervogels v SV Spakenburg

19. Bolivar vs The Strongest

20. Partizan Belgrade vs Red Star Belgrade